Thursday 08/01/2024 by phishnet

ST. LOUIS2 RECAP: THEY CANNOT ALL BE ZINGERS

[Thanks to Mike (@yhgtbfkm) for the recap. -Ed.]

Writing recaps is hard. On top of trying to translate music into words (you try describing “Lawn Boy” in more than two sentences), it’s especially hard when the show you’re writing the recap for takes place the day after a show that contained, for lack of a better phrase, a jam for the ages. I had the privilege of attending NYE this past year, and as my friend and I were walking back to the hotel after the show, I rhetorically asked him “How do you top THAT?” and the answer is…you don’t. Phish learned that lesson years ago, Trey has said they make it a point to not talk about shows afterwards. Fans, however, have missed that part of the book. I started hearing about “Tweezer” while it was still happening. After two epic jams over the course of four shows, everyone was buzzing with anticipation about what tonight would hold. Would we get an epic "YEM" to compliment the tour so far? Maybe Gin as a throwback to the best "Gin" of all time (sorry not sorry)? Maybe they’ll play “Gloria” again! (Dear god I hope not.)

© 2024 Charlie Miller
© 2024 Charlie Miller

Or maybe tonight will be just another Phish show. Like Les said, they can’t all be zingers.

Tonight’s show opens with “Turtle in the Clouds,” complete with silly, slightly out-of-sync dancing. Like one of the comments posted on the Tiny Desk Concert video, it should be illegal for this many fun uncles to be in the same place. If you caught the livestream, at the very end of the dance segment the camera focuses on Trey and he’s got the biggest grin on his face, after which I developed a huge grin on my face. It’s infectious.

Hey Stranger” from the new album (available at your local independent record store) bats second and yeah…this is groovy. Very “Camel Walk”-esque (but like, the “Camel Walk” from the Gorge) if you’re into that kind of thing.

Back on the Train” follows next, and is what you’d expect from “Back on the Train.”

Hey, remember when I said it’s really difficult to wax poetically about “Lawn Boy?” Here’s a boring personal anecdote about “Lawn Boy.” Back in 2018 I was at Allstate Arena seeing Phish, and I sat next to a couple from Wisconsin each night (even though our seats were in different rows/sections each night) and the topic of bathroom break songs came up. I said mine is Number Line, but I was caught off guard when she said hers was “Lawn Boy.” Ignoring the fact that “Lawn Boy” is a killer tune…it’s not usually a long tune. I made the joke “It sounds like your bathroom break song is ‘Lawn Boy’ and ‘Whatever comes immediately after ‘Lawn Boy.’” Everyone in the section laughed and we all high-fived.

Ugh. Bathroom break. [REDACTED] would be rolling over in their grave if they saw how many people were jazzed to hear this.

Horn” is next. I think I’m gonna grab a beer before I get back to my seat.

Pebbles and Marbles” and “Bouncing Around the Room” allow me to finish my beers in peace before getting off my ass for the final two songs of the set, the always funky “Boogie on Reggae Woman” and “The Squirming Coil.” After Page finishes the set, the house lights come up, music plays on the PA and I’m off to get another beer.

© 2024 Charlie Miller
© 2024 Charlie Miller

After the world’s longest fifteen minutes, the house lights come down, the band takes up their respective spots on the stage and launch into “Free.” “Mr. Completely” is up next and, despite being the longest song of the night at 22 minutes, it just kind of never gets going. It starts off rough with Trey seemingly the only person singing, and while the jam itself was fine, it ends with this super awkward transition back into the main part of the song and then just kind of ends?

Trey must have noticed that nobody felt like singing but him, because next up is “If I Could,” one of my absolute favorite Phish songs. It’s (mostly) cleanly played and everyone begrudgingly sings their parts.

Twist” could not be more boring to me. They always play it during the second set, and I just don’t think it works. At least Trey makes some attempt at redemption with “Ruby Waves” next. “Ruby Waves” is solid before Ripcord Trey shows up and abruptly kicks off “No Men In No Man’s Land” Set II ends with “First Tube

If you’ve never heard “The Prison Joke” it’s...better than the Yellow Dog story? That’s really all it has going for it. I couldn’t find it on YouTube, but if you’d like to hear it in all its glory, enjoy. Following some banter about The Prison Joke,“Grind” officially opens the encore. TL;DR: the band’s been alive for a lot of days. “Miss You” is next, and mercifully the show is over with “Harry Hood.” With the show finally over, the crowd makes its way outside into the scorching St Louis summer.

So there you have it, a dud of a show.

I kid, of course. Any Phish show (yes, even you) is better than no Phish show, but shows like this are a good reminder that we as fans (mostly just me) need to temper our expectations. There was nothing wrong with this show per se, it just couldn’t reach the heights we reached during night 1, and that’s ok. If this is the worst show I ever see, I’ll die a happy fan. Just means I need to keep going to more. See y’all at Dick’s.

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Comments

, comment by mterry
mterry Yikes. I’ll buy you a beer next time to help cheer you up.
, comment by BestBandEver
BestBandEver I have to say I could not agree less with your overall sentiment about this show. First set was average, sure (although pebbles and marbles as an excuse to extend a beer break? Whah?!) but second set?! The Mr. Completely and Ruby Waves are both absolutely scorching brilliance - to these ears, while those jams may not be behemoths time-wise, they are just so dense and intricate and exploratory. They’re pretty much tied for jam of tour in my mind right now. Combined with the gorgeous If I Could, an average great Twist and the ripping 1-2 punch of no men’s> first tube at the end I think that might actually be the best set of tour so far! I’ll take two unique and inspired 20ish min jams over a 40+ min “we’ll get there by minute 25” jam any day. No offense but it kinda sounds like you were just in a bad mood anyways? I’m truly sorry that you witnessed that and felt it was a “dud.” Better luck next time!
, comment by Benjahman
Benjahman Long time phan here, went to the show both nights, and thought the show was good. Had a blast and enjoyed my time in StL. Personally love the smaller venue shows throughout the years.
Pretty “glass half empty” review we just got. Keep it positive and try to remember to surrender to the flow. Hopefully this guy’s glass is “half full” at Dick’s.
, comment by Ireadicculus
Ireadicculus Yeah Maybe too many beers
, comment by zombiezoo
zombiezoo More like a "dud" of a review!
, comment by Marc0Esquand0las
Marc0Esquand0las This is a poor review. Yes, it wasn’t the greatest show of all time, but it was fun and solid. The jams were enjoyable, the grooves were shareable and it was never boring. Maybe drink less beer next time? Regardless, the many thousands of cheering fans that were there seemed to have a different feeling. The GA section towards the middle-front Page side had immaculate vibes, we were dancing like crazy and it was a fantastic night with a fantastic band.
, comment by FlyFluffyMockingbird
FlyFluffyMockingbird I was there. It wasn’t everybody’s show so I can understand why you don’t like it but some of my favorites were played and I thought the jams were pretty good.
, comment by OrangeSox
OrangeSox Last nights Ruby Waves was solid until ripcorded after 20 minutes? It went back into the song, you literally cant call that a ripcord and it was way harder than solid! That jam hit on a type II theme for the ages brah pull them beer cans out of your ears. Love a review to sow some discord but

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, comment by hairy
hairy As someone who’s guilty as charged for immediately fluffing a show seen under the influence of fungus, I’ve finally realized it’s best to listen the following day or so before overrating an average (good/solid) concert. Initial post-show thoughts were that it was a great show due to the mindspace of the aforementioned. Hearing it on the drive home from the airport this afternoon changed to one of a songy first set with some special moments in both Mr. Completely & Ruby Waves. I still had more fun than on 7/30, but that doesn’t always make for a 4.+ rating. Regardless, the train is still barreling on towards what could be the penultimate shows of the decade: Mondegreen!
, comment by OrangeSox
OrangeSox Edit! @OrangeSox said:
Last nights Ruby Waves was solid until ripcorded after 20 minutes? It went back into the song, you literally cant call that a ripcord and it was way harder than solid! That jam hit on a type II theme about halfway through for the ages brah pull them beer cans out of your ears. Love a review to sow some discord but

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, comment by semkachan
semkachan I love when a show gets panned on here because I know it’s gonna be one of my favorites and I can’t wait to listen ????????
, comment by Harold_J_Hood
Harold_J_Hood Respectfully, the review of this show is off. From someone who generally agrees about Twist in that it is not my favorite, there was some subtle soulful tickling in that jam that drew me in more than ever before. What the review misses is the awesome energy of the whole second set. People were getting murdered by that first tube. Also, it’s not like Trey ripcorded a jam for a Farmhouse…

STL was show 6 and 7 of this tour for me. N1S1 was the only set that I felt was a little off. It wasn’t song selection, just the energy. You could see Trey trying to catch Fish’s attention at the end as if they were not in synch. They sorted it at set break obviously. The next three sets ripped.
, comment by RevolutionYLuke
RevolutionYLuke I'm with the others here -- poor review. I started listening mid set 1. Thought nearly all of the playing was quite good, with Mr Completely being awesome, Ruby Waves going very interesting places and No man's having a blistering guitar solo.
, comment by MrMinor13
MrMinor13 That was a bad review. What is this, PT.
, comment by bennyhaha
bennyhaha Was at both nights. I thoroughly enjoyed N2 more than N1. I loved N1, but for me the vibe on the floor was a bit off for me. Was in the stands N2 and was transcended beyond this reality. That is the beauty of Phish. One mans average show is another mans transcendent experience. I love Phish!
, comment by BTBuckeye
BTBuckeye I was unaware that anti-twist second setters existed. And for that reason alone, I'm piling on. Thx for the PDX Meadows reminder ;)
, comment by Adumb
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, comment by fromsliptofall
fromsliptofall Any show with a jammed out Mr. Completely isn’t a dud.
, comment by Sneary
Sneary I'm not sure what show you watched, but I thought that show was an absolute banger. The boys were tight and concise. They came out with jams from the start, and i could not have been happier. But i may have had a few shroomies to elevate the experience.
, comment by petestick
petestick 20+ minute Mr. C looked great on paper, but after listening I'd have to agree with your assessment. Aimless and can't decide whether to get weird or go bliss, so it just chugs along. They can't all be zingers!
, comment by kurtwastl05
kurtwastl05 After a monster show, they can't possible follow that up with another doozie....shoreline says hold my beer, looks like you need another!
, comment by Uakari
Uakari Grab a beer
, comment by STL_HOOD
STL_HOOD I would normally respectfully disagree, but this review deserves zero respect. That show was really, really good. The second set was best of the tour. They don’t blow curfew and take a fine after firing a dud. Are you serious?

They were dialed in all night and the crowd was electric. Maybe you should take a break from the beers and give it a respin. Maybe try going to Phish without dulling your senses on $17 beers all night. I legitimately feel sorry for you that you didn’t experience the magic of STL2.

.Net please don’t let this guy do another review. Who wants to read someone trash talk the entire show? Especially when it’s dead wrong.
, comment by Fluffhead1979
Fluffhead1979 Guess we were not at the same show. I had an excellent and transcendent evening on the rail. This sounds like one of the guys I had to yell at to get off me at Sphere. Excuses were, “Too many beers!”
, comment by cactusclub
cactusclub “… Persnickety” -Trey Anastasio
, comment by PhishBerger
PhishBerger Great show, terrible review. And probably coming from someone who can’t play a note of music on any instrument to save his life. Weird that Phish is judged from some talentless, jaded, hack who took bad drugs, drank too much beer, or didn’t sleep enough the night before. Given how good the band is playing right now, this reviewer doesn’t deserve to be in the same state as the band, much less the same room. yhgtbfkm, get a life and stop spreading your unfounded trash views and negativity.
, comment by newbornelf
newbornelf Not sorry indeed. That is the best Gin of all
time.
, comment by Rutherford_theBrave
Rutherford_theBrave what a terrible review
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