Thursday 07/24/2025 by phishnet

FOREST HILLS2 RECAP: PHISH GOES ELECTRIC

[We would like to again thank Alaina Stamatis (@Farmhose) for recapping last night’s show. Find her on the socials @fad_albert and at www.fadalbert.com --Ed.]

You could say I went to Forest Hills to get drunk and talk really loudly and a Phish concert broke out. I barely had a buzz on at 6:26pm when the band emerged at the famed Tennis-stadium-turned-summerstage and opened with “Free.” We’ve all seen this song open a show a hundred times, easily, so I saw no problem in shouting into my wife’s ear nonstop. I asked her if she knew that Bob Dylan played here in 1965 and before she could answer, I launched into a super detailed account of the show as it was remembered by the bassist who played with Dylan on that fateful date.

“It was Harvey Brooks! He played bass for Dylan at his first Forest Hills show and went on to lead an illustrious career as a studio bassist, appearing notably on Bitches Brew and the Doors’ the Soft Parade! He’s interviewed in that book by Ray Padgett!” I yelled as “Free” continued. “Anyway! So, Harvey Brooks says as soon as the drums came out people started booing, and then Dylan went electric and a handful of people stormed the stage! Dylan turned to Brooks and said, ‘Keep playing.’ There was a grass court down there and a small platform for a stage, not at all like what we see today! And a few guys got tackled trying to ruin the show, and one dude managed to reach the stage and pull Al Kooper’s stool out from under him! He was on keyboards!” My wife murmured something unintelligible and I crushed a can.

© 2025 David Avidan
© 2025 David Avidan

Back on the Train,” was next, which is appropriate because we all had to get on a train to get to the show. I leaned over to my buddy and started recounting my subway route, projecting my voice so he could hear me clearly from six inches away. Chris Kuroda’s LEDs were flashing because it was so sunny onstage that his light beams weren’t showing up. Once, “Theme from the Bottom,” started, I was reminded of the subway rats who count on us to drop food waste onto the platform and train tracks, rather than “toss(ing) away stuff you don’t need in the end” in the proper receptacle. I tried to explain this to the couple sitting behind me but they just looked away.

“Nobody wrote serious rock and roll songs until Dylan did! Nobody!” I yelled at my wife, which prompted a nearby fan to clap in time with “Cities,” right near my head. I guess not everyone wanted to hear my take on music history. I took out my phone. Good place to get some scrolling done! 43 years ago, Trey Anastasio saw the Talking Heads perform this very song at this very location with the Dude of Life, according to the Dude on Facebook. Shutting my mouth for thirty seconds gave me the ability to recognize how cool Trey’s guitar tone was on this song. His guitar escalated to a soul-affirming shred, a brief, heal-the-world peak. This was Trey’s protest song. I figured now was a good time to drop an emoji in the group chat even though everyone in the group chat was at this show.

© 2025 David Avidan
© 2025 David Avidan

The boys were all wearing sunglasses, which I only noticed during the opening notes of “Divided Sky.” The sun was setting behind the stadium walls, causing the line between light and shade to follow along the edge of the stage. “Divided Sky” is usually a great song to chomp over because the composed portions tend to be more atmospheric than overpowering; however, last night, the expressive pause of “Divided Sky,” was exceptionally long, which elicited an extended ovation, with a cheering war between sections. I couldn’t even hear my own thoughts as they dribbled from my mouth!

The clarity with which we could experience Mike Gordon’s bass was unbelievable! On “Timber,” he was immediately vibrating my very core. A giant lobster balloon circulated the venue, and somebody threw an inflatable sex doll into the VIP area, because as adults the music was not stimulating enough and we needed sensory objects. I didn’t know what the next song was but I could tell it was new; back in the 1960's we would’ve been allowed to “boo” and heckle the band for such an infraction. Nowadays we display our distaste for innovation by exiting, so I announced, “PISS BREAK!” and then ran into the walkway.

© 2025 Scott Marks
© 2025 Scott Marks

The stairway down to the concourse was a "bass trap" with such heavy sound insulation that the show suddenly became muffled. This means I missed the crunchy minor jam of “Ether Edge,” and the insane amounts of tension building onstage. Did Trey tease Dobie Gray’s “The In Crowd,” or was it just some good ol’ fashion sentimental shred? I wouldn’t know because I was in line to get another drink and Forest Hill’s soundproofing (to appease its neighbors) was working overtime.

I also missed the sustained-note therapy of “Squirming Coil,” in which the audience cheered for the line “Little Jimmy’s off to camp,” because they too have shipped off their offspring, thus affording them the opportunity to attend a jamband concert on a weeknight. And of course I missed Page McConnell’s soaring clean piano first set outro. This was a night to celebrate Page's throwing of the ceremonial first pitch at the winning Mets game earlier today, and I was missing it.

© 2025 David Avidan
© 2025 David Avidan

Setbreak was more of the same. I wanted to talk about how Bob Dylan debuted “Desolation Row” here and how his young audience laughed at the punchlines of the lyrics like it was a comedy show, while people accused me of being a “close talker” and “annoying ass.”

The second set kicked off with, “Punch You In The Eye,” and the place exploded. I couldn’t get a single person to listen to me. I had no choice but to undergo the totality of the concert from my incredible seats. The sun finally set and while dusk was still quite bright, Kuroda had regained all of his magic powers. This punchy "PYITE" dissolved into a siren loop and segued into "Ghost."

After a minor synchronization issue, Mike led the band into a shadowy improvisational valley. Trey worked to reclaim his influence but Mike held a locked groove that everyone seemingly spiraled off from in chaotic deviations, different paths to the same, subterranean sludge. Playtime was over. This was Desolation Phish. Nobody needed to inflate a sex doll when they had Phish to do it to them in multiple orifices. Page's synth was soaking the stage with waves and washes. Trey insisted on a major key shred but the rhythm section's undercurrent of grime continued to flow. Trey played the tiniest tease of "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" to congratulate Page, and then was overcome by a "Wave of Hope."

© 2025 David Avidan
© 2025 David Avidan

At this juncture the stage lights looked like the holy mountain. Somebody bit the metaphorical head off of a bat as the band entered an evil Kosmiche groove the likes of which Mr. Crowley himself would have been proud to engage in sex magick. The stage went full purple for the late Ozzy Osbourne and the LEDs formed a face reminiscent of an Easter Island head. Trey couldn't keep away from the major key and Jon Fishman was egging him on with excitable polyrhythms. Mike suggested something more sinister and Trey took the bait. Page meanwhile was engrossed in his cerembrum-scrambling sequencer patterns. This was the true opposite of ASMR, in which Phish uses shrill tension to puncture your brain. Fish kept driving them past the point of no return and the tune swirled into "What's the Use?"

"What's the Use?" blasted my mind blank, my thoughts unintelligible and my mouth wholly unusable. Rather than a white noise machine, the band was an every-fucking-color noise machine. The stage went full black. Fish was hysterically rolling while everyone else was feeding back. Page's flourishes felt particularly vibrant in this cave. A balloon landed on a dudes head in perfect time. Couples hugged and swayed.

© 2025 David Avidan
© 2025 David Avidan
An earlier me would have heard the intro to "Ruby Waves" and escaped, seeking out a way to relieve myself and also become more intoxicated. My former self would have taken this as a cue to holler over the music. But this song is so often more intoxicating than any libation the venue can sell me for $15. And as for my bladder, I simply wet myself outright and trusted that the cool Queens breeze will dry me before the show lets out. Trey sang of "a ball of energy," and Page manifested it with his synths, instantly rewarding my good behavior. Page led the way, emboldened by his brush with sporting greatness, to a dazzling, digital realm. The rest of the band worked in support of his space mission, in true egalitarian Star Trek fashion. Trey's Languedoc did not gently weep; it whined and wailed and asked to speak to the manager of psychedelic synthscapes. Anything felt possible on the final frontier. Mike kept giving Trey ideas and Trey kept using them, or was it the other way around? Fish gave everybody room to freak out, and light plinko playing entered an almost calypso zone. "Ever think about how this song is about gnosticism?" whispered a spinning hippie man. I was almost completely dry when I needed to wet myself again.

Crescendos melted into cacophony and we found ourselves going "Backwards Down the Number Line." The call felt right and in-line with the, "We love you, Page!" theme of the night. Somebody grabbed the giant lobster balloon and made it dance along. I thought about, but didn't say aloud, something else that Harvey Brooks remarked about his time with Dylan at Forest Hills. "It took the whole set to get them on our side, but we did. By the end of the set, we had 'em." Phish too had us jumping up and down and hugging each other to a song we claim to hate. They closed the set with "Character Zero," which is standard placement because at the end of the day, the formula works. Trey was yelling the lyrics and the audience was yelling back. Curfew was looming so the boys truly only had time for half a wheatgrass enema backstage and then a one, maybe two-song encore. I fanned the wet spot on my cargos in anticipation.

They returned with 20 minutes on the clock to entertain us with Allen Toussaint's "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley" in an arrangement from that plorb Robert Palmer, of course. I was fully prepared for the show to end there but the singalong continued with "Wilson." With six minutes until curfew the evening really could have ended there, but Phish rewarded us with a third encore: "Rocky Top!" There's a cool story about the couple who originally wrote the song, but I'll let Bob Dylan tell you about it. Before Page took his solo, Trey announced him as the NY Mets "relief pitcher" to much acclaim. Truly there is but one way to use one's mouth to be constructive during a show, and that is to aid in the greater good of the event. Trey wants you to sing, to woo, and to cheer, but otherwise, for the sake of everyone around you, please, shut the fuck up.

© 2025 Charlie Miller
© 2025 Charlie Miller

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Comments

, comment by pureguava
pureguava Brilliant. No notes.
, comment by Wookatmee
Wookatmee 10 / 10 review, no notes
, comment by Juliusismypetcat
Juliusismypetcat Excellent write up. Shame about the chomping. Damned shame.
, comment by SawItAgaaain
SawItAgaaain Noting the incendiary way the author arrives at STFU. Citizens of New York, this is for you.

Second set middle of floor during the sparkle fest Ether Edge jam I hear bro joy behind me as some dude stumbles upon a friend. They shout in recognition then talk. And talk louder. And then talk more.

I turn. I glare. I dumbly ask "hey guys, what song even is this?" They keep chomping. Five+ minutes later, one bro bounces and the other taps me on shoulder to say "Hey sorry, man. Haven't seen my friend for years! You understand." I mumble "Neat, thanks."

PSA: Swap digits and fucking talk about thinks only you two care about when the best band in the world isn't making magic.
, comment by TnJedHead
TnJedHead Fucking brilliant! Literally laughed out loud several times. Well done sir.
, comment by mgolia6
mgolia6 If I am understanding the thesis of this review, which was that this shows attendees consisted of a majority of incessant conversationalists who had better things to do then enjoy the music, namely talk and imbibe alcohol, with subtle moments of musical zen, mostly relegated to H2, then this was my experience to the letter. Absolute nightmare of which I tried to remove myself from by finding different specs only to be thwarted by the lovely staff back to my original portal.

The verbal diarrheists near me thought they were being aloof when they decided to add commentary on my dancing, and how embarrassing it was. At which point I stopped and turned and asked if it was as embarrassing as the entire BBQ sandwich he had spilled on his neon polo. He was caught off guard and then replied, “Bro, not really concerned about what you think!” My thoughts exactly, Bro!!

Great review.
, comment by ReelScience
ReelScience Accurate all around, found myself having a great time both nights, Squirming Coil hit home in so many ways, left me a little teary. I saw my party go from chomp, to stand, to sway- finally trusting the band to do what ticket said. The laugh-cry over reading this review sealed the deal, an epic weekday night in a finally kidless summer. Kudos to the venue staff and all of their work with the community to bring Phish out here, I heard the venue has been vying for this for ten years!
, comment by Hari_Hood
Hari_Hood Thanks for yelling at your wife.
, comment by stimbuck
stimbuck "because at the end of the day, the formula works"
, comment by farmhose
farmhose @Hari_Hood said:
Thanks for yelling at your wife.
I am my own wife ♾️
, comment by Midship
Midship Hilarious, but I genuinely wish this satire was unnecessary. Everyone leans over to their buddy at times for a quick comment, but the people who yap through entire songs and even sets take me out of the music. Making it easier to see less shows than I have in recent years (save $$$) when my show experience has been negatively impacted so frequently by people who suck at Phish.
, comment by thepocketpemachodron
thepocketpemachodron i was already dying by the time I got to "NOT AT ALL LIKE WHAT WE SEE TODAY!"

fabulous review.
, comment by Daddo
Daddo Hehehe this was awesome…I’m sorry you had to put up with so much chomping…I feel very lucky to not have this be too much of a problem at any of the shows I’ve attended.
As the sites number one Dylan fan, I thank you for spreading the history …HERE ON THE INTERNET….where no one can hear you chomp.
, comment by mgolia6
mgolia6 Lost in my condemnation of the “chompers” was the sheer brilliance of Mike and his bass coming through in the most intense way last night. It was crystal clear throughout that second set and was a leading driving bass that took command. Man, that was a super bright spot of the night along with that alien dial up modem sequence they hit in set two. I wrote during WOH, “alien dial up modem swamp type shit” it was that good and it all transpired in the last five minutes or so and flipped the switch on the upbeat nature of the first 11 minutes or so, like they flipped a switch and went from heaven to hell.
, comment by rwise
rwise great review!

shoutout to the bro already barfin in portal 3 bleachers 20 minutes before the show started! possibly the bro-iest bro-phest to ever hit phorest hills haha.

cyall in saratoga
, comment by unoclay
unoclay i wish this review would have given a nod to the great artists who played here before

in seriousness i didnt have any problems like this, but i did bail on the floor much of the shows due to crowding. but its just another show. no biggie

i did laugh at the sex doll because it was a naked sex doll
, comment by Patchy
Patchy Was in obstructed section. No band view, big crowd view. Tons of dancing room, not a soul acting how our frustrated scribe complains about. But dog, did we ever chew the legendary Dylan fat at set break! Really funny that my lousy seats seem to equal a better concert experience than our scribe, who presumably could see the band.
, comment by Zzzilla91
Zzzilla91 Worst chomping I’ve ever experienced. Was coming from all angles. A couple people both nights apologized and got better but others were so drunk and belligerent I had to move into the stairwells during jams, to focus. Detracts from the experience big time and when tickets cost this much def a bummer. The show was a big improvement over night 1 imo but between the out of control chompers, choppy sound, and again predictable setlist (comparing to the rest of tour), not a great overall experience.
, comment by farmhose
farmhose @Patchy said:
Was in obstructed section. No band view, big crowd view. Tons of dancing room, not a soul acting how our frustrated scribe complains about. But dog, did we ever chew the legendary Dylan fat at set break! Really funny that my lousy seats seem to equal a better concert experience than our scribe, who presumably could see the band.
In all honesty I had some of the best seats in the house, sound was incredible, old and new friends as neighbors, everybody groovin, but I was reading the room haha sorry to have missed the dylanology meetup!
, comment by IanTheGreat
IanTheGreat Note to Author: You perfectly describe my neighbor Dan who I purposefully avoid when he’s at a show and that chomper was in Tampa for this show but right now I feel like he was with me at this show. Thanks for ruining my 225th Dan you asshole.
, comment by SilentHorse
SilentHorse Unfortunately, most people who need to hear this message likely do not visit this website.
, comment by FluffSavedMyLife
FluffSavedMyLife Thank you for writing this. My wife and I really need it after FH N2, or what will go down in our Phish history as "the night we fought chompers." It sucked. We hacked our way through two groups of fragile-ego Long Island boys who all got so mad they left. It took a lot out of us. One dude in a yellow shirt stepped in to support the effort but the cost was high. If you want to drink, do coke and talk with your bros stay at the bar. Fingers crossed for SPAC.
, comment by BestBandEver
BestBandEver Heady Muzzles! 1 for $3, 2 for $5!
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