@frankstallone said:

@n00b100

Not every "jam" has to be a has to be a type 2 mission to mars to be great

For me personally, when I think hall of fame Phish I think of things like 12/30/93 Mike's Song or 12/31/93 Hood or 10/31 Divided Sky as much as I think of a Riverport Gin or Lakewood Ghost. Early 90s Trey blazing through a fury of perfectly executed notes leading up to a face melting peak is as "Hall of Fame" as any late 90s extended jam to me. So yeah I'd have plenty of type I Rebas/Hoods/Slaves/etc on my list (and I did)

As far as Tahoe Tweezer goes, It's great but there is nothing IMO that puts it ahead of plenty of other late 90s/2.0/3.0 jams other than when it occurred. I thought Summer '13 was pretty weak until they hit the West Coast, and that wasn't for a lack of extended jams its b/c they sounded rusty and Trey was leaning heavily on his whammy. Then that Tweezer came seemingly out of nowhere and people went nuts. That's not in any way trying to say it isn't great, it's just trying to somehow explain the ridiculous amount of hype that somehow made it #1 on this list

Oh, yes, I don't disagree about jams not having to go out there to be great - the 6/14/00 BOTT isn't anywhere near as Type II-ish as the 12/30/09 version, but it's still a great piece of business. Horses for courses w/r/t Summer 2013; I don't think it's that weak, but hey. I do agree that there is/was a *tremendous* and nearly ridiculous amount of hype surrounding the Tahoe Tweezer (which, again, what would you expect? It's 36 minutes long!), but then I'm just circling around again to my main point w/r/t 3.0.

I *will* say that I don't think the voting makes it out to be the #1 jam ever, just that it received the most amount of votes on ballots that were explicitly designed to *not* rank the jams (I wouldn't have it #1 on mine, either - that's the Radio City Ghost for me). And all that means is - I'll say it again - more folks gotta listen to more from 3.0.