@BornXEyed said:

@FACTSAREUSELESS said:

@BornXEyed said:

I'll have to re-read the comments meticulously, but I don't recall reading anyone complaining about the band overall or comparing them to the 90s shows in this thread (though I understand that happens often on the boards). So it seems silly to rag on .netters who hold objective opinions about a show, or compare the scene to GD.

I think you should re-read the comments meticulously, as you proposed. The Dead conversation was never intended to pertain to the "show in question"....it was just a discussion, which you are free to join in on.

If you read digitalhoward's post, it kicks off the Dead discussion by comparing the scenes somewhat and acknowledging that there's no use in comparing now and then. "So quit yer whinin," was his end quote basically. I was just wondering who whined or compared this show (or 3.0 for that matter) to previous eras within this thread? (Have to omit GuyForget's ridiculousness).

Another comment in response to reading anything objective included "Almost none of you get it and that's a real shame. I've been around a long while and NOW is where it's at with Phish," by cuddlybutmuscular.

I get IT. Have for a long while. Long before we started calling the "x factor" IT. If an objective opinion is now considered "whinin" or "not getting it" then shame on the few who can't handle valid discussion.

FWIW, I feel Phish is on the verge of peaking again overall, which is why I can't entirely agree with Ivy_Light either. This summer has proved that; the MPP shows were the best run in that particular venue all-time imo and I was at every MPP show since they headlined in 98. The best Wedge all-time? I think you'd have to say Northerly Wedge makes a strong case. Best Chalkdust? Randall's compares nicely to Camden 99. The list could go on and on really.

So while me not thinking this particular Dick's show was all that OR that it likely would not land on a "Best of Dicks" list in their entire four years there might piss some people off, I stand by my opinion. Sorry phanners.

And to add to the GD discussion. I was fortunate enough to catch the tail end of the Dead (or unfortunate as some of you probably believe). Believe me though, there's not a day that goes by I don't listen to the boys and imagine "what if." It's a cruel game to play, but damn if I wouldn't trade seeing Phish 50 shows today for one more night with Jerry. My 2c.

You pretty much missed anything I was getting at and you certainly didn't get the tone. I wasn't ragging on anybody, I never compared the scenes, and the only reason I brought the Dead into this (sigh) was to just give a little perspective to the folks who think Phish is a band in decline as someone who witnessed what happened to Jerry, who I adored. Trey just seems to take a lot of heat.

And the very next words following "quit yer whinin'" acknowledged that what we as fans love to do is to compare this vs. that. That's what makes us truly insane fans who write messages on the internet.

Oh, and "objective opinion" - that's not a thing. Just sayin'.