I think that the egalitarian-like connection between Phish and ICP communities sounds legitimate. My knowledge of ICP, however, is pretty limited. I've never really communicated with a Juggalo before, and my knowledge is more or less confined to stereotypes, and footage from the documentary "American Juggalo" (a very interesting watch I might add). The thing that immediately raises a red flag for me when hearing about Mr. Rabin's book is the violence associated with ICP and their lyrics. Some of their songs are just incredibly violent and abhorrent. As a Phish fan, it's this association with extreme brutality that makes me feel very troubled about a Phish/ICP correlation. How exactly does this translate to the larger community? Is this rationalized by fans somehow, or secluded to small percentages of fans (maybe something similar to nitrous mafia presence at Phish lots?) If any .netters are more knowledgeable on the matter, I'd love to hear your thoughts. I suppose that there is a good chance of finding answers in the book, so I definitely plan on giving it a read.