Waxbanks and nichobert seem determined to project onto my comments a point that I am not making. I am not saying Phish should become a different band. In my last post, I made clear that they are done with the era of loops and layers of sound texture that is most closely analogous with jamtronica and that I have no hope of a return. It is too bad imo b/c there are SO MANY MORE places they can go with jams along these lines than the current mid-90s style of rock jamming, and they bring a love and beauty and mastery to this style of play that few jamtronic bands can. And if anything it felt like that exploration was cut short prematurely back when it happened.

My primary point was that the St. Louis show was not the epic come to Jesus moment you two and others are making it out to be. When you are clinging to Frankie Sez > Undermind to make your point, that really is grasping. Please. I assign the band "demerits" for not playing more like that throughout the show, and better. They have always experimented with "movement logic, harmonic language, and leader shifting." That is not new!

There are so many songs whose jams sound barely any different than what they were 15 years ago, and it so happens that many of them blow out eardrums. If you guys really wanted re-evolution, you'd make a bigger deal about that. How many Possums, Juliuses, and Samples do you guys need to hear before you apply the same standard of experimentation to these songs? They never change. Even the YEM jam was "painfully standard" to quote Rory over at onlinephishtour.com. And 2001 was the standard short and sweet.

Anyway, I still love the band and believe it or not have been enjoying many moments, songs, and even a few sets from this tour. I think the band could have done a lot more in St. Louis, but that's just my opinion, and again I would have never shared it if so many hadn't been so eager to christen this one of the greatest shows of all time. I will listen to some "Date Rape-y" djs for you on the way home, nichobert. Peace out.