My point of view at this moment in time after reading some of these post's is that the thing that helped make us such a fast growing close nit community in the Nineties is bringing us down in this decade, technology. tune out drop in and avoid East Coast shows is my advice, as a Philly native it kills me to say that, but from what I read it sounds like the East Coast scene is overrun with wanna be's, haters and kids that don't get it. Closest one I've hit since '03 was Star Lake in 2009 (or whatever they call it now), but what do I know. COLORADO LABOR DAY WEEKEND!!!