Monday 02/25/2019 by wforwumbo

MYSTERY JAM MONDAY PART 364

Welcome to the 364th edition of Phish.Net's Mystery Jam Monday, the fourth and hardest of February. The winner will receive an MP3 download code courtesy of our friends at LivePhish.com / Nugs.Net. To win, be the first person to identify the songs and dates of the three mystery clips – these clips are connected by a theme that need not be part of the correct answer. Each person gets one guess to start – if no one answers correctly in the first 24 hours, I'll post a hint. After the hint, everyone gets one more guess before Wednesday at 10 AM PT / 1 PM ET. Good luck!

Hint:

Answer: Wizard or vulture, it doesn't take a mathematician to figure out that @ChalkDustTeacher is only one win shy of the promised land. This week he schooled the rest of the weekly MJM crew for the sixth time, using the hint (and some juicy comments) to identify the 10/31/10 "Stash," the 10/31/98 "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley," and the 7/30/03 "Twist." @ChalkDustTeacher didn't fall for the Halloween red herring, and instead figured out that the hint referred to show gaps the first night of Mexico featured huge bust-outs of "Spock's Brain" (429 show gap), "Who Loves the Sun?" (602) and "Spanish Moon" (306), last played on 7/30/03, 10/31/98, and 10/31/10, respectively – the shows from which this week's clips derive. Stay tuned for MJM365 when we drop a single clip puzzle that will complete our first orbit.


Comments

, comment by ChemistryChris
ChemistryChris Oh man, that second one has been a staple of mine for as long as I've followed this band... No clue on the other two.... :-(
, comment by MiguelSanchez
MiguelSanchez What in the holy fuck is that crazy 3rd jam and why don't I immediately know it?!?! That sounds cool as hell. Can't wait to find out what it is.
, comment by justino
justino @ChemistryChris said:
Oh man, that second one has been a staple of mine for as long as I've followed this band... No clue on the other two.... :-(
After three listens, I had no idea what clip two was... but I knew exactly what song came next.
, comment by susep
susep 2010, ??? BDTNL?

more 3.0...cool jam,

IT style, muddy funk. 46 Days IT
, comment by Basisforaday73
Basisforaday73 I def have #2 but clueless on the others. Partial Credit ?!? lol...
, comment by ChemistryChris
ChemistryChris I've still got nothing...
, comment by BraveRutherford85
BraveRutherford85 I'm always just as clueless after the hint as I was before... just like my love life! lolz
, comment by MiguelSanchez
MiguelSanchez I once boned in a Gap dressing room. That's a good memory. That's all the hint did for me.
, comment by jimsleftear
jimsleftear I check the MJM posts for two reasons: to see the guesses and MiguelSanchez's responses. Never disappoints.
, comment by ucpete
ucpete Surprised no one has solved this yet – this is a juicy ass hint [insert retail changing room joke here] for anyone who has been following Phish closely of late and has already found one of the clips
, comment by ucpete
ucpete also: inb4 someone thinks the gap refers to Ghost / Antelope / Piper and goes on wild goose chase
, comment by wforwumbo
wforwumbo @ucpete said:
also: inb4 someone thinks the gap refers to Ghost / Antelope / Piper and goes on wild goose chase
Clearly it’s Glide/Also Sprach Zarathustra/Possum (in case any of you decide to go down that wild goose chase instead, that was sarcasm)
, comment by MiguelSanchez
MiguelSanchez @wforwumbo said:
@ucpete said:
also: inb4 someone thinks the gap refers to Ghost / Antelope / Piper and goes on wild goose chase
Clearly it’s Glide/Also Sprach Zarathustra/Possum (in case any of you decide to go down that wild goose chase instead, that was sarcasm)
::feverishly listens to every glide looking for the one that sounds like the beginning of every light jam ever::
, comment by ChalkDustTeacher
ChalkDustTeacher 2010/10/31 Stash
1998/10/31 Sally
2003/07/30 Twist
, comment by ucpete
ucpete @ChalkDustTeacher said:
2010/10/31 Stash
1998/10/31 Sally
2003/07/30 Twist
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, comment by MiguelSanchez
MiguelSanchez @ucpete said:
@ChalkDustTeacher said:
2010/10/31 Stash
1998/10/31 Sally
2003/07/30 Twist
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He must be a wizard because i still don't know what those songs have to do with the Gap.
, comment by ucpete
ucpete @MiguelSanchez said:
@ucpete said:
@ChalkDustTeacher said:
2010/10/31 Stash
1998/10/31 Sally
2003/07/30 Twist
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He must be a wizard because i still don't know what those songs have to do with the Gap.
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, comment by wforwumbo
wforwumbo @MiguelSanchez said:
He must be a wizard because i still don't know what those songs have to do with the Gap.
http://www.phish.net/setlist/gap-chart/phish-february-21-2019-barcel-maya-beach-riviera-maya-quintana-roo-mexico.html

The theme was, jams from shows occurring the last time major bustouts from 2/21/19 were played. The gap charts (plus at least one jam) were needed to solve this week’s puzzle, hence the hint.
, comment by wforwumbo
wforwumbo Or, as @ucpete points out, you also could have scrolled further down the homepage and checked the show page for 2/21/19.
, comment by ChalkDustTeacher
ChalkDustTeacher Nope, not a wizard. Unless you count mathematical wizardry.

I started out thinking that the theme was 'jams from shows with big bustouts' which was certainly relevant to the Mexico shows. I was checking the shows with the biggest bustouts: FYF, Skin it Back, Curtain With, etc.

But then I read @ucpete 's comment: Surprised no one has solved this yet – this is a juicy ass hint [insert retail changing room joke here] for anyone who has been following Phish closely of late and has already found one of the clips

I figured there was probably a closer tie to the Mexico bustouts, looked at the setlist notes, and started searching for shows on the other side of these bustouts. I got the 2003 Twist first and then the others weren't hard.

I feel like I've been lucky on my last few wins to be one of the first people to understand the hint AND to have a little bit of free time to search.
, comment by ucpete
ucpete @ChalkDustTeacher said:
Nope, not a wizard. Unless you count mathematical wizardry.

I started out thinking that the theme was 'jams from shows with big bustouts' which was certainly relevant to the Mexico shows. I was checking the shows with the biggest bustouts: FYF, Skin it Back, Curtain With, etc.

But then I read @ucpete 's comment: Surprised no one has solved this yet – this is a juicy ass hint [insert retail changing room joke here] for anyone who has been following Phish closely of late and has already found one of the clips

I figured there was probably a closer tie to the Mexico bustouts, looked at the setlist notes, and started searching for shows on the other side of these bustouts. I got the 2003 Twist first and then the others weren't hard.

I feel like I've been lucky on my last few wins to be one of the first people to understand the hint AND to have a little bit of free time to search.
So you're saying you're not so much a wizard as you are a great vulture? ;)
, comment by ChalkDustTeacher
ChalkDustTeacher @ucpete said:
@ChalkDustTeacher said:
Nope, not a wizard. Unless you count mathematical wizardry.

I started out thinking that the theme was 'jams from shows with big bustouts' which was certainly relevant to the Mexico shows. I was checking the shows with the biggest bustouts: FYF, Skin it Back, Curtain With, etc.

But then I read @ucpete 's comment: Surprised no one has solved this yet – this is a juicy ass hint [insert retail changing room joke here] for anyone who has been following Phish closely of late and has already found one of the clips

I figured there was probably a closer tie to the Mexico bustouts, looked at the setlist notes, and started searching for shows on the other side of these bustouts. I got the 2003 Twist first and then the others weren't hard.

I feel like I've been lucky on my last few wins to be one of the first people to understand the hint AND to have a little bit of free time to search.
So you're saying you're not so much a wizard as you are a great vulture? ;)
Guilty. But I like to think I'm a very majestic vulture.

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, comment by funkbeard
funkbeard Clever mystery jam.

That 10/31/98 Sally remains my pick for best ever. The song and jam are as good as it gets. I was at that show, and Mike's slap bass deep in the jam and the ensuing cheer through the crowd are engrained deep in my memory.
, comment by MiguelSanchez
MiguelSanchez Haha...I didn't even know there was a gap chart.

Sometimes the hints are trickier than the fucking jams.
, comment by JakeB
JakeB I'm always awestruck that anyone can even figure out one of these, let alone all three, let alone the hints, let alone coming back week after week to do it.

My non-head friends all think I'm the biggest Phish geek, just because I can identify songs by their first bar or two and have been to -- get this -- 14 shows. I always say, you have NO idea how far down that list I am.

I know I'll never make it to your level but I love watching the game!
, comment by wforwumbo
wforwumbo @JakeB said:
I'm always awestruck that anyone can even figure out one of these, let alone all three, let alone the hints, let alone coming back week after week to do it.

My non-head friends all think I'm the biggest Phish geek, just because I can identify songs by their first bar or two and have been to -- get this -- 14 shows. I always say, you have NO idea how far down that list I am.

I know I'll never make it to your level but I love watching the game!
Hello! First time I’ve seen you in the MJM comments. Thanks for chiming in, and welcome to this wonderful community of fellow Phish geeks.

I’ll start out with this: despite the level of geekery you see in MJM, it is never a competition for or measure of who is the biggest Phish fan.

Look, at the end of the day, you hear something in the music just like the rest of us - that’s the thing about Phish, there is room in the fan base for all of us. Just because some of us identify jams from 30-second snippets doesn’t make us “better” or “more dedicated” than you.

And if you want to get more involved in MJM, all of us start somewhere. Every first-of-the-month, we have n00b week where if you’ve never won you get first crack at trying to solve the puzzle over past winners; that happens to be tomorrow. Keep showing up, play the clips, follow along with the clues and answers if you can’t figure it out, and eventually you’ll build an ear for it. You can also check the spreadsheet in OP, click on “MJM Results” and you can check the entire history of MJMs with answers and build an ear for the catalog (in addition to hearing a MASSIVE treasure trove of jams that runs the gamut from well-known like Riverport/Went Gin, to obscure one-off performances and themes like “jams from shows where they played Jennifer Dances” or Whipping Posts from ‘88. This particular MJM was the hardest-of-the-month which is always a serious challenge, so don’t feel disheartened by not getting it immediately or even with some digging - it’s usually a challenge for myself and the emeriti too. Heck, a few weeks ago @justino recommended an MJM puzzle, and upon hearing the clips couldn’t identify the jams himself! And I’ve gone back and only gotten about a 75% success rate of clips and puzzles that I myself have constructed.

I remember when I was at 14 shows, my friends considered me a Phish geek and attaining emeritus status or figuring out MJM seemed like a pipe dream. It’s something that is a lot of fun, and something VERY doable for all of you out there. I fully encourage you to explore the catalog, but also enjoy every second of hearing it all for the first time. I WISH I could hear my favorite jams all over again for the first time, and while those jams have grown and matured with me and made my life more complete as a soundtrack to my own growth, I still love sharing that fresh feeling of seeing someone hear the 7/23/99 Ghost > Free or the 11/7/98 AC/DC Bag for the first time. Don’t rush it, keep exploring, and spread kindness wherever you go and you can’t go wrong in life my friend.
, comment by chrismichels
chrismichels I AM NOT A ROBOT
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