Monday 07/25/2016 by Dog_Faced_Boy

MYSTERY JAM MONDAY PART 232

Welcome to the 232nd edition of Mystery Jam Monday! Continuing with our Hall of Fame Series, where we welcome one of our nine, seven-time MJM winners into the MJM recording studio, and let that Emeritus winner select the tracks for this week's competition. For week 6 of this Emeritus Series, we welcome @mcgrupp81, the sixth person forced into mandatory retirement after impressively earning seven victories between November 2012 and November 2015.

To win, be the first person to identify the song and date of each of the three mystery jam clips, and answer what they share in common. Each person gets one attempt per day, with the second “day” starting after the Blog posts the hint -- each answer should contain three songs / dates, along with the commonality between them. No sharing or trading of answers is allowed. A hint will be posted on Tuesday if necessary, with the answer to follow on Wednesday. The winner will receive one MP3 code good for a free download of any show, courtesy of our friends at LivePhish.com / Nugs.Net. Good luck, and thanks again to @mcgrupp81 for hosting this sixth week of the MJM Hall of Fame Series.

Hint: "I was asked to provide a hint, and I am only doing so because you guys are such a great, attentive audience."

Hint regarding the 2nd Track: Just as the faithful dog McGrupp likes to keep close to the heal of his master, Colonel Forbin, the song from which the 2nd track was selected is closely associated with and adjacent to another, larger song. It is this leading song, the master if you will, which relates specifically to this week's theme.

Answer: Congratulations to @Schvice, who not only takes down a doozy MJM and earns his seventh victory, but as a result, he is now forced into mandatory retirement, becomeing only the 10th person to join the Hall of Champions Emeritus Club. @Schvice accomplished this feat by correctly identifying the tracks: Wilson from 12/8/92, the Jam after McGrupp from 7/5/98, and AC/DC Bag from 2/14/03, as well as the theme: Gamehendge Songs. Special thanks to this week's Emeritus host, @mcgrupp81 who selected the tracks and theme.

In the last few weeks, we have witnessed the expansion of the Emeritus Club, as victories by @ucpete, @WayIFeel and now @Schvice have increased its membership from seven to ten. Will a new generation of MJM savants materialize, or will the Blog finally improve its dismal win-loss record? Only one way to find out: tune in next Monday for MJM Part 233, as the Emeritus Series continues with our guest host, @yunkfunk.

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Comments

, comment by PDXpeet
PDXpeet Surprise sets from festivals?
, comment by GottaJibboo
GottaJibboo This is why I shall never reach Emeritus status. I've listened to that 2nd jam countless times and now that I'm asked to place the song/version I am at a complete loss. And with a hint taboot.

good luck!
, comment by schvice
schvice Whew! This one was not easy!

12/8/92 Wilson

7/5/98 Jam (out of McGrupp)

2/14/03 Bag

All Gamehendge songs
, comment by mcgrupp81
mcgrupp81 @schvice said:
Whew! This one was not easy!

12/8/92 Wilson

7/5/98 Jam (out of McGrupp)

2/14/03 Bag

All Gamehendge songs
Great job and congrats on joining Emeritus club! In retrospect, I should have gone with a "Theme from the Bottom" theme with all "F" rated songs from "Two Cents" Charlie reviews.
, comment by JesusFreak
JesusFreak I recognized the Bag instantly, and made an erroneous assumption that the theme for the week was California related, given the recent California Love... Needless to say that led me down the wrong trail... until the hint game, by which time I had already thrown in the towel for this week ;)
Congrats Schvice!
, comment by JesusFreak
JesusFreak @JesusFreak said:
I recognized the Bag instantly, and made an erroneous assumption that the theme for the week was California related, given the recent California Love... Needless to say that led me down the wrong trail... until the hint came, by which time I had already thrown in the towel for this week ;)
Congrats Schvice!
, comment by schvice
schvice @mcgrupp81 said:
@schvice said:
Whew! This one was not easy!

12/8/92 Wilson

7/5/98 Jam (out of McGrupp)

2/14/03 Bag

All Gamehendge songs
Great job and congrats on joining Emeritus club! In retrospect, I should have gone with a "Theme from the Bottom" theme with all "F" rated songs from "Two Cents" Charlie reviews.

Hey thanks man!

That would have been a fun theme too, but this was a good one. You would think "Gamehendge tunes" would be the easiest and most obvious theme possible, but you made it really tough.

Right off the bat, I was pretty sure I recognized that first clip, but I had no idea what it was. I thought maybe it was a particularly odd Weekapaug, or maybe a Jim. The second and third were even more tricky. I actually thought there were two basses in that second one, so I checked a bunch of shows featuring Oteil, Les, Victor, Chris Wood...nothing. And that last one sounded more like a Jim than a Bag. Pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten that one (or really, any of them) without the hint. Nice work!
, comment by JesusFreak
JesusFreak Oops sorry for the multiple posts...my bad
, comment by schvice
schvice @JesusFreak said:
I recognized the Bag instantly, and made an erroneous assumption that the theme for the week was California related, given the recent California Love... Needless to say that led me down the wrong trail... until the hint game, by which time I had already thrown in the towel for this week ;)
Congrats Schvice!

Funny that you and I recognized the opposite jams first. The one you knew right away was the one that I had no idea about.

This band, I tell ya...
, comment by mcgrupp81
mcgrupp81 @schvice said:
@JesusFreak said:
I recognized the Bag instantly, and made an erroneous assumption that the theme for the week was California related, given the recent California Love... Needless to say that led me down the wrong trail... until the hint game, by which time I had already thrown in the towel for this week ;)
Congrats Schvice!

Funny that you and I recognized the opposite jams first. The one you knew right away was the one that I had no idea about.

This band, I tell ya...
This band indeed. There are certainly many omissions from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but you would think a band that has, year after year, shown incredible improvisational ability and overall musicianship would be in there.
, comment by tek9rifleskills
tek9rifleskills I just don't know how people even got the old style MJM's, this new 3-clip deal is impossible! I know my music but I'll never come close, I think I'll just listen to how cool the clips are and leave it at that, anything close to a win is NOT in my future!

Congrats to yet another Phish catalog master
, comment by bushwood_a_dump
bushwood_a_dump Well done Schvice!

Like others have said, these cats competing in this are on another level. I can't hang, and that's okay, but it is a lot of fun to watch and make feeble attempts at the weekly theory.

Time didn't permit this week, but my armchair theory, once the hint was revealed, was that all three clips were (way out) versions of Hydrogen, which is adjacent to Mike's (following the Forbin/McGrupp reference). It also seemed that each clip contained extra, or more than usual, percussion. So I was chasing guest percussionists and looking at the era when Trey had his mini-kit.

Obviously not the right rabbit hole, but kudos to all who keep the MJM alive. Cheers.
, comment by umuckurlife
umuckurlife @tek9rifleskills said:
I just don't know how people even got the old style MJM's, this new 3-clip deal is impossible! I know my music but I'll never come close, I think I'll just listen to how cool the clips are and leave it at that, anything close to a win is NOT in my future!

Congrats to yet another Phish catalog master
Same here. I usually waste a bit of time trying to figure them out, but they always introduce me to shows that I haven't heard before. I love MJMs.
, comment by Piper72
Piper72 @bushwood_a_dump said:
Well done Schvice!

Like others have said, these cats competing in this are on another level. I can't hang, and that's okay, but it is a lot of fun to watch and make feeble attempts at the weekly theory.

Time didn't permit this week, but my armchair theory, once the hint was revealed, was that all three clips were (way out) versions of Hydrogen, which is adjacent to Mike's (following the Forbin/McGrupp reference). It also seemed that each clip contained extra, or more than usual, percussion. So I was chasing guest percussionists and looking at the era when Trey had his mini-kit.

Obviously not the right rabbit hole, but kudos to all who keep the MJM alive. Cheers.
I was thinking along those lines too, but even further back - that the middle song was a Hydrogen (based on the hint) and that all three were early 1.0's with percussionists - going back to Daubert perhaps, and the last one maybe w/Santana and Karl Perazzo.
, comment by schvice
schvice @tek9rifleskills said:
I just don't know how people even got the old style MJM's, this new 3-clip deal is impossible! I know my music but I'll never come close, I think I'll just listen to how cool the clips are and leave it at that, anything close to a win is NOT in my future!

Congrats to yet another Phish catalog master

As tempting as it is to bask in the idea that I'm some kind of master of the Phish catalog, I'm afraid I just can't accept that mantle. In fact, I'd venture to say I'm much less of a master than most others here.

You don't have to have a deep knowledge of the catalog to win these things, you just have to be willing to spend an afternoon or two blowing off the work you're supposed to be doing and devoting all your time and energy to the chase. It's a dubious honor.

But an honor just the same, so I'll take it!
, comment by PhreePhish
PhreePhish When i first listened to these 3 clips, not only did i have no idea about them, I wouldn't have even guessed they were Phish!! Congrats Schvice. I haven't won one in a long time, but I'm still gunning for Emeritus! (5 down, 2 to go! This multi-clip format is killing me!)
, comment by WayIFeel
WayIFeel @schvice said:
@tek9rifleskills said:
I just don't know how people even got the old style MJM's, this new 3-clip deal is impossible! I know my music but I'll never come close, I think I'll just listen to how cool the clips are and leave it at that, anything close to a win is NOT in my future!
You don't have to have a deep knowledge of the catalog to win these things, you just have to be willing to spend an afternoon or two blowing off the work you're supposed to be doing and devoting all your time and energy to the chase. It's a dubious honor.
Work productivity in my office drops off significantly from 1-3pm on Monday and then after kiddo's go to bed I'm back at it from 8pm-12am Monday night. Tuesday I usually attempt to do some MJM hunting during my lunch break and if it's still not figured out by Tuesday night I go on the hunt again after kiddo's go to sleep.

I'm with @phreephish on the difficulty of the multi-clip format. Luckily I knew two of the four mjm clips last week within minutes of hearing them. I knew the Ha Ha Ha on the first note. Glad I was able to get the other four to gain emeritus status because I didn't see that happening for a long time with the multi-clip format.
, comment by Dog_Faced_Boy
Dog_Faced_Boy So far, the Blog has won 16 out of 232 MJM competitions. That's just over one out of every 20 attempts. Over the last two years, as searching for the MJM track has been greatly facilitated by websites like Phishtracks and Phish In', the speed with with the MJM was being solved was startling at times, often within ten or fifteen minutes of the MJM track posting.

In an effort to make the MJM level of difficulty commensurate with the new and vastly improved search tools, @ucpete devised the multi-track, theme-based MJM. To win with this format, a certain amount of effort is required, because even if you identify a track and then the theme, you still need to work to find all the pieces of the puzzle. He and I think that's okay - you shouldn't win in 10 seconds because you recognize a jam and it's game over like that.

Having said that, Pete and I will monitor the results, especially in light of the fact that a couple of really strong players have just been forced to retire. If the multi-track format is simply too difficult, or if it becomes unpopular, we will shake things up, again. Most importantly, we want people to have fun and to look forward to this little distraction from real life each week. If that's not the case, what's the point? So keep sending us your feedback, because we both pay attention and we want this to be something that people enjoy. And, it would be nice if the Blog could notch a win once in a blue moon.

Thanks everyone.
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