cubsfantrey- I don't have a problem with heavy songs (big sabbath, primus fan)... just shitty ones, and "killin' in the name" is awful piece of music any way you slice it, and I'm still convinced it was played more in gest than out of any reverence or respect for it.

It just suprised me that people who follow such elaboratety crafted and complicated music would just as easily get off to a three minute MTV friendly screamathon stuffed at a would-be pivotal spot in a thoroughly mind bending set. To each his/her own and yadayadayada...

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