Subject: 12/30/97 AC/DC Bag Review From: Mathias A LoertscherDate: 1998/03/20 AC/DC Bag 12/30/97 set 2 I don't know if anyone has reviewed this monster before, but upon listening to it today, I felt inspired to give my own analysis and interpretation of it. I am not in the habit of ranking jams as the best or as better than, this just happens to be my favourite jam of maybe all time. I was lucky enough to witness it in the flesh and have vivid memories of the emotional peak it brought me to. I have started the timing when Trey begins with the chk-chk (approx 10 secs before the actual song begins. Why? Why not) The times are even then not 100% accurate. This is my first major review of a jam. I hope you enjoy it and I appreciate any feedback. After a little muted rhythm by Trey, the tune opens authoritatively. The crowd responds nicely, and th boys settle into what can be described as an solid Bag groove. Not too fast, not too wild, but solid. Mike's playing is right on, with little lilt here and there, esp. at 0:36. Trey is keeping things nice and open. Lyrics start at about 0:50. So far this Bag is nothing special, but it feels right. As Trey begins the second verse (Time to put your money where your mouth is), Page switches up to the Clavinet (I have noticed a little confusion amongst this newsgroup as to which is the Clav and which is the Moog. The Clav is Page's main funk keyboard, and is also featured in Gyute. The Moog has a more electronic sound is the one he uses in Frankenstein). He funks it nicely for the rest of the verse, giving this Bag a little more edge. He switches back to the piano for the chorus. The rest of the pre-jam Bag is nicely played. Solo starts at approx. 3:40. After a little normal Bag-style playing, Trey settles into a very very rhythmic and repetitive pattern at about 4:10, playing very staccato. Page has already moved up to the Clavinet and is complementing nicely, not taking too much of the focus. Mike varies the bass line a little, yet keeps implying the chord progression. At 4:35, Trey moves up the 'doc and continues the rhythm, this time with more vigour, yet with equally short and staccato notes. Page has changed the sound on his Clav, giving it a little more twang, probably playing a bit with the wah wah pedal he's got hooked up to that thing. He is soloing very cautiously, yet melodically. By about 5:15, everyone has become a lot more active. Trey is subtleing playing around with the rhythm he's been laying down. Mike is still implying the chord progression, but has taken a few liberties here and there, filling in all the spaces nicely. Fishman has all the while been keeping the beat simple, restraining himself. He sounds so solid though. He and Trey have hooked up tightly. Page begins soloing with a little more emotion, giving the jam a little more direction. By 6:10, Mike has abandoned the Bag, and is providing a very up beat bass line, propelling Phish 2000 into what now sounds like its going to be a sick jam. At about this time, Page starts playing higher up in the range. He begins exploring a very nice theme, almost spacey sounding. Trey responds at 6:30 by unleashing the first space sound digi delay. More follow. Mike is simplyfing the bass line a little. Fish follows Mike and lays down the groove in a more restrained manner. Trey begins anew with the staccato rhythm at about 6:55. At this point, Page changes his sound to a real down home twang. It almost sounds like he's playing a guitar, or a lap steel. Trey begins playing chords by 7:15. Mike's bass playing has picked up again and now he's gathering steam, taking Fish along with him. These two have locked up tighter thn Fort Knox. Between 7:30 and 8:05, Trey and Page really start playing off of each other. Trey is sparsely playing a lot more chords. I really think that Trey has successfully managed to integrate himself more into the collective playing of the band this past year. I know that he wanted the jams to be less guitar solo orientated and I think he's managed this quite nicely. Not taking the focus, but being part of the whole, that's what the boys are about when they jam, which is something none of the other jam bands I've ever heard have really successfully done. They all rely on a soloist. Anyways, by this point, Page is really playing with some urgency, milking that twang for all its worth. At 8:10, Trey starts with some wah wah funk chords, adding to the fire that Mike and Fish are laying down. Page speeds up his playing, toying around with a very bouncy theme. By 8:35, he settles on a repetitive pattern. This allows Mike and Trey to refine what their already playing. Everybody is showing lots of energy by this point. Mike sounds like he's pounding that bass fast and furious. I can see Fish sitting back, riding the groove and playing in a sweet trance. At 9:05, Page starts playing a lot of notes, giving the jam a more textural feel. Trey has kept the wah wah chords going, probably as tranced as Fish is right now. At 9:35, Trey varies his playing a bit, filing in more. The jam, although it has retained the flavour it started with, now sounds a lot more full. Mike's emphasising the peaks and valleys a lot more too. They continue on this groove for a while, until at 10:40, Trey unleashes another spacy digi delay. Fish man breaks it down nicely, and Page calms down a lot. Mike follows Fish, and Trey comes in with a new rhythmic theme. He has changed the effect on his guitar, sounding a lot harder and rougher, like he's getting ready to kick ass and take names. He prowls around for a while, almost like a tiger or something. The jam has a much more gritty feel to it, and yet is more subdued as well. By 11:40, the tiger is getting restless, sounding more and more like a chain saw. Whatever remnants of the more positive, happy jam remain are in Page's keyboard work. Page is still on the Clav (which I would argue has replaced the B3 as his second keyboard, piano remaining #1), and his playing sounds less extroverted than before. At 12:15, Trey is ready to go. He starts into a nice meaty theme, although it sounds like he's still holding back. Mike is completmenting very nicely, as is Fish. Both have found their own niches in this new road. Page is getting a little more vicious as well. By 12:35, their rocking. Not too hard, but rocking. At 12:45, Trey switches back into some wah-wah chords, still sounding rough though. The rest of the boys keep it going, and Page switches down to the piano at 13:00. As Trey battles with the wah wah, sqeezing all the rhythmic variations he can out of the 'doc, everyone else gets down to business as well. Fish is now flying, filling in like a champ, making extensive use of his various cymbals. Page has hunched down and giving the sound a really nice full warm texture, yet not venturing too far into happy land. At 13:12, Trey lets fly a hell of a wah wah run, lasting a full ten seconds. The first time a friend of mine heard that run, he got very upset at Trey for being so damn good. At 13:30, Trey lets loose!! Enough is enough, its time to rock and roll!! The theme he starts playing sounds a lot like Psycho Killer to me, expect this is like a Psycho Killer on amphetamines. Page is playing high up on the piano, with lots of energy. Fish is driving the rhythm, hitting a lot of splahes for accentuation. Mike is laying down the groove, making sure no falls behind. The continue this theme until about 14:15, when Trey kicks down a big fat power chord, jumping off that train. The rest of the band pans out the rest of the way, until Page starts hitting some high notes repetitively with some urgency. The boys have been battling long and hard with this groove, and now, in their greatest hour, they will show what true warriors are really made of. At 14:30, Trey unsheaths the 'doc of its effects and plays straight from the heart. Everyone is playing dynamically, refusing to fall into a simple groove yet not deteriorating into a mess. Trey's solo is one of the greatest I've ever heard. Cliche free and without restraint, he proves himself a mature guitarist with original and energetic things to say. Page compliments him incredibly well, obviously listening to the development of the solo, playing more when needed and restraining himself when Trey needs more space. Mike proves here why he is the most solid bass player around. Not drawing too much attention to himself, he nonetheless retains his own sound and provides the band with its drive. Fish proves here why he is the most improved member of the band. Dynamic. That is the adjective I'd attribute him. I can only think of some jazz drummers who play more musically. By 15:15, Trey settles on a repetitive pattern, laying on a few effects. The band switches down out of turbo. Page heads up to play some mellow Clav, and Fish's rhythm eventually mutates into something that sounds a lot like the Runaway Jim rhythm. Mike is playing a little more bouncy, but switches to create a thick warm texture. At 16:15, Trey still has the pattern going, although it sounds like its modulating a bit. It dies down at 16:30. Trey starts noodling softly. Page goes to the piano, playing a very cool descendo at 16:57. Mike has started to play between Fish and Trey, finding a nice groove between them. Trey plays more chords, eventually settling on some very light and pretty ones. Page is also playing very beautifully as well. Trey's chords sound like someone riding a horse bareback through a beautiful green field on a day when the sky is the color of blue jeans. Fish's rhythm is the galloping feet as they meet the soft ground, leaving it perfectly trampled in its wake. They keep this gloriously chill and free groove going for awhile. At 18:30, we start to see some cloud coverage. Not enough to ruin a beautiful day, but enough to let ya know it might be time to find shelter. Trey and Page both create a little tension with the chords they play, very intermittendly. At 18:45, it breaks down to pretty much just Trey. He plays a very different pattern. Although it contrasts with the previous mood, it sounds very logical. Sort of like going from yellow to purple. Their very different, but they create a strange and wonderful effect when placed side by side. The rest of the band follows him. They are all playing a little more disjointed now. Fish however gets the same rhythm going. Mike sounds a little more sinister, reflecting the darker mood. At 19:22, Trey starts to solo again. Quietly, and sounding a little more cooly dangerous. He gets more passionate as time goes on. By 19:45, he settles on another repetitive pattern, building the energy, until he finally unleashes some more rock and roll!!!! Fish follows him and gets equally tempremental. Mike and Page can do nothing but join the flow. At 20:15, Trey lets loose with a yowl!! A little machine gun follows. At 20:40, he lays down some power chords. Page complements nicely, although sounding equally pain stricken. Trey lets loose again at 21:00, this time soloing with the wah. The rest of the boys keep up nicely, everybody playing heavy. At 21:20, Page has a really nice crescendo that really emphasizes the strangely organised chaos or hell the boys have found themselves in. At 21:50, they settle down quite a bit, letting the groove take over. Fish is playing beautifully as is Mike, who sounds really dark. Page is onto to the Fender Rhodes now. chhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllll. At 22:30, Trey wah wah chk chks out a few mutterings. He turns on an effect (the one which I think overlays an octave on what he's playing), and solos very quietly. Page is over on the piano now. The jam is still rather erie sounding. Effect switch at 23:30, and Page gets a little more active. Mike and Fish are just laying it down smooth the whole time. Trey sounds a little more grimy now. The energy begins to build. Trey noodles for a bit, often playing some very interesting lines. By 24:30, Page has switched over to I'm not quite sure which synth (Not the Moog, Clav, Rhodes, or B3), and is giving Trey some spacey backdrop to work against. This continues for a bit until Trey ends it with a one off chord. Page and Mike also die out immediately, but Fishman lets the rhythm ride out for a bit until Trey starts up with the McGrupp opening, at which point he fades out very nicely. All in all, I think this is one of the finest musical moments in Phishtory. I have heard some (not nearly all) of the jams from 97, and have to say that this one, in terms of magnificence, complexity, and originality is the best. Hope that everyone has fun at the Spring Mini Tour. Mathias ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Smoother than scratch-free Formica and cooler than a Frigidaire." ---------------------------------------- Mathias Loertscher, DEC. "Smoother than scratch-free Formica and cooler than a Frigidaire"